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#328324 - 11/04/09 06:59 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: marbear272]
Amanda34 Offline
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Lady comp is giving me pregnancy lights because I had a slightly raised temp from sickness earlier in my cycle. Now, I Think I actually ovulated. Can we BD tonite with no condom, is it safe? My cervical fluid went from Eggwhite to a dryup almost, just a wierd creamy/sticky.
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#328328 - 11/04/09 07:24 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: marbear272]
KawaiiNot Offline
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Originally Posted By: marbear272
im in my second cycle of using Pearly, and my temps still seem pretty jumpy...does my chart look normal? or am i doing something wrong?

Are you taking your temp at the same time every day? Are you getting sufficiant sleep before you take your temp? Do you take your temp at the same place under your toungue every day?
Are you getting any greens at all apart from on M days?

It is difficult to say if you are doing something wrong really, we don't know your routines. Some women have rocky temps naturally, and since it looks like FF is able to identify a clear temp rise indicating ovulation I wouldn't be too worried. Also, anovulatory cycles can be rocky.

Originally Posted By: Amanda34
Lady comp is giving me pregnancy lights because I had a slightly raised temp from sickness earlier in my cycle. Now, I Think I actually ovulated. Can we BD tonite with no condom, is it safe? My cervical fluid went from Eggwhite to a dryup almost, just a wierd creamy/sticky.

I wouldn't chance it. But of course it depends on how well you know your body, your cycle, your symptoms, and what chances you are willing to take. It's a personal call really, but you can definitely not call it "safe". Or it depends what "safe" means to you.
If you are experiencing sickness, you should not use your Ladycomp. Just don't temp on those days, I think the manual is clear on that. The reason is exactly because of what you are seeing now, the device can give false greens and it will definitely screw with the reliability and safety of it. It means that the 99.3% safety of the Ladycomp is shot for that month, and you need to start over next cycle.


I was never too fond of the Ovusoft charts, I can never tell up from down on them so I'm not able to read them effectively. But it does look like you have a sustained rise? But it is important to remember that Ovusoft/FertilityFriend are not meant as contraception, and they are not as "strict" as Ladycomp. At least they aren't in my experience.
Whether you want to chance it or not is up to you of course.
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#328336 - 11/04/09 09:10 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: KawaiiNot]
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KawaiiNot asked:
"Are you taking your temp at the same time every day? Are you getting sufficiant sleep before you take your temp? Do you take your temp at the same place under your toungue every day? Are you getting any greens at all apart from on M days? It is difficult to say if you are doing something wrong really, we don't know your routines. Some women have rocky temps naturally, and since it looks like FF is able to identify a clear temp rise indicating ovulation I wouldn't be too worried. Also, anovulatory cycles can be rocky."

MarBear272's reply:
Yes, i take my temp approx the same time every day (between 4 and 6am-mostly at 4am). i get between 1 and 3 hours of sleep normally, as i tend to wake up around 1am and go to the bathroom, but sometime its as late as 3am and then i temp at 4. i always make sure it's atleast 1 hour though. i always place the thermometer on the same spot under my tongue as well. My cervical mucus leads me to believe that I ovulated this month, but no temp rise yet (i think i just ovulated a day or two ago, or maybe will shortly, as im still having EW/slippery mucus. I have been off the pill for a little over 2 years and my cycles are pretty regular so it's not that. I have not seen any green lights yet, but Pearly is predicting some in two more days. Also, I only have the free version of FF - will it still detect ovulation?

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#328349 - 11/04/09 10:42 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: marbear272]
KawaiiNot Offline
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Originally Posted By: marbear272
Yes, i take my temp approx the same time every day (between 4 and 6am-mostly at 4am). i get between 1 and 3 hours of sleep normally, as i tend to wake up around 1am and go to the bathroom, but sometime its as late as 3am and then i temp at 4. i always make sure it's atleast 1 hour though.

This might be the reason you are getting rocky temps. Try taking your temp at the same time every day, and get atleast 3 hours of sleep before you temp. See if that helps.

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My cervical mucus leads me to believe that I ovulated this month, but no temp rise yet (i think i just ovulated a day or two ago, or maybe will shortly, as im still having EW/slippery mucus.

Since there is no consistent temp raise yet, it seems you have not ovulated. Fertile cm can come in patches during a cycle, it does not always coincide with ovulation. Sometimes it is your body gearing up for ovulation and not quite making it, or it can be caused my normal fluctuations of estrogen in your body. The primary sign of ovulation is the temp rise caused by a surge of progesterone after ovulation, and ovulation cannot be detected without this consistent rise of basal body temperature.
So, my guess is that you probably haven't ovulated yet, but that your body is currently working up to it.

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I have not seen any green lights yet, but Pearly is predicting some in two more days.

The predictions of ladycomp/pearly are in my experience not very trustworthy. Unless you are very regular, but it will probably take more then a few cycles for it to be pretty reliable. In my opinion they really shouldn't advertise this function, I think that for most women it's kinda useless...

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Also, I only have the free version of FF - will it still detect ovulation?

Yes, it will. smile
It did for your previous cycle (the dotted red lines), did you not get any greens then either? I'm sure Pearly is playing it safe because of your rocky temps, which means it's doing it's job. Try taking your temps more reliably for a few weeks (time and hours of sleep), it might make a big difference for you.
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#328399 - 11/04/09 02:16 PM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: KawaiiNot]
BunnyGirl19 Offline
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Registered: 04/06/09
Posts: 355
Loc: Portland, Oregon
Some people are far more sensitive to changes in their sleep pattern affecting their temperatures, so the variable of one to three hours can make your temp less stable. It's also very difficult to confirm O without a sustained rise in your pattern and it will sometimes take several days to confirm that O actually took place. My Baby Comp predictions are usually pretty accurate but I don't count on that as your cycle could change and be off for any number of reasons.

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#328437 - 11/04/09 09:27 PM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: BunnyGirl19]
marbear272 Offline
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Thanks for the tips Kawaii and Bunny. I'll keep sticking it out and hopefully it will work for me. The thing about getting consistent sleep before temping is that I have trouble sleeping and mostly never get 3 solid hours of sleep at any point during the night (except for those rare times that I happen to). But i've been tracking when I get three hours vs. one hour and I havent seen a consistent pattern in terms of less sleep causing higher temps or vice versa, so im stumped. Maybe my temps are just jumpy. My last cycle, FF predicted that I O'd pretty late in my cycle so maybe I havent O'd yet this cycle. I dont think I got any green lights during my last cycle either (but it was the first one where I used Pearly, and I started mid-cycle). I'll keep trying and see what happens...

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#328443 - 11/05/09 02:33 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: marbear272]
Pia Offline
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Registered: 06/28/07
Posts: 40
Loc: Germany
Hi marbear,
if you are just getting up for a quick walk to the bathroom, then don't worry too much about the temperature pattern being affected. But getting at least 1 hour of rest makes sense.

Some womens temp is affected by irregular sleep, others show no correlation at all.

But an other thought: Bumpy temperatures can be a sign of e.g. milk allergy or severe under- or over weight or just stress.

Your current cycle just looks like you have not yet ovulated. And last but not least, 1.5 cycles are not yet enough material to really start worrying about anything at all. Let us see your cycles again in about 2-3 month.

Pia

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#328554 - 11/06/09 07:51 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: Pia]
ilovedan1987 Offline
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Registered: 01/13/09
Posts: 5
Just a quick update for any of you who are considering using Lady Comp....I got married in May and have been using it successfully since then. (I was on here considering getting it for a few weeks and after talking with others decided to go ahead.) If you are aware of your body and what it's telling you, then you will be fine! I love my Lady Comp!

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#328568 - 11/06/09 09:23 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: ilovedan1987]
marbear272 Offline
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Thanks Pia. I'll give it a few more months and see if this is just what my normal cycle looks like. Thanks for all the support everyone - this board is great!

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#328655 - 11/07/09 07:37 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: marbear272]
paisleygirl Offline
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Registered: 10/27/09
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Thanks ilovedan for the encouragement! That's awesome!

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#328707 - 11/07/09 09:47 PM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: paisleygirl]
Ambrosia Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
Posts: 96
I haven't been here for a while... ( my siggy tells u why LOL) but I have to say how absolutely wonderful ladycomp is... I used it to prevent getting pregnant and when I was ready, I actually used it to get pregnant also ( got pregnant on my first cycle of trying). It is a simple, beautiful and worthwhile investment....To all those wary, trust me,it is worth it!
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#328770 - 11/08/09 06:08 PM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: Ambrosia]
marbear272 Offline
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Registered: 09/06/09
Posts: 31
well, my chart finally says I ovulated and pearly gave me the green light today!! apparantly i tend to ovulate later in my cycle, judging by my first to cycles on FF. I think i'll play it on the side of caution for just a while longer, until I get a handle on how certain things (sleep pattern, room temp, etc) really affect my body...but so far pearly is living up to its promises.

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#328844 - 11/09/09 04:29 PM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: PUMPKIN]
katie855 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/09
Posts: 2
Hi! I am new to the site and I have a question about pearly. I just started using it about a week ago. If I get a green light in the morning, how long does my green light last? If I wanted to have sex at 2am following a green light that morning, am I still protected??

Hope someone can answer me smile
Thanks

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#328926 - 11/10/09 12:25 PM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: katie855]
KawaiiNot Offline
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Registered: 12/11/08
Posts: 185
I consider the green lights to be effective until the end of the three hour window the next day. Basicall until you take your temp the following day. So boink on sister, enjoy'em while you got'em. laugh
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#328975 - 11/10/09 11:30 PM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: KawaiiNot]
marbear272 Offline
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Registered: 09/06/09
Posts: 31
I finally got my first green light on 11/8 and now I cannot seem to work up the courage to actually trust Pearly and go "au natural" and not use any backup protection...are others on this board really not using anything else on green days? thanks for the support!

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#328977 - 11/11/09 12:38 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: marbear272]
BunnyGirl19 Offline
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Registered: 04/06/09
Posts: 355
Loc: Portland, Oregon
I never used anything on green days, even when trying to avoid. I trusted it, especially since I also checked my CM and CP daily. It just helped to confirm for me that it was safe. I never had any potential contradictions either. It's always been accurate for me.

As to the green lights, they are safe until the time you take your temperature again the next day. Generally they give you a yellow "transition" light between green and red as well. If you are trying to avoid, treat the yellow as fertile, but I've hever had that be the case, i.e. yellow light falling within my fertile window. SO and I only ever called a red light fertile and then were either careful (well, withdrawal which apparently only has a 4% failure rate if used correctly) or not, and I left that up to him. I just told him it was a red light day. I was the one that wanted to TTC and he was the one that wanted to wait, so it fell on him to behave himself or not after I provided the info. LOL

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#328989 - 11/11/09 08:37 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: BunnyGirl19]
katie855 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/09
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Thank you so much Kawaii and Bunnygirl!!

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#328998 - 11/11/09 09:55 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: katie855]
Amanda34 Offline
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Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Wisconsin
ok, girls I hope I am not pregnant. I absolutely cannot get pregnant. Doctor said it would be too risky, I had a more serious complication at my last birth wich was in October 2008. I am a little nervous. My period is not coming. We did have sex in the LP, with no condoms. Lady comp has been giving me Pregnancy lights for a few weeks almost, but I did not ovulate back when Ladycomp said I did, I ovulated several days later. I sure hope my period comes by tommarow! We used a condom on all other times besides the LP, Although we may have been a tiny bit careless (got close but not inside before putting condom on, ect)

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http://dev.ovusoft.net/members/ahna/charts/1.aspx
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#329002 - 11/11/09 11:07 AM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: Amanda34]
marbear272 Offline
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Registered: 09/06/09
Posts: 31
Thanks BunnyGirl - i think it's time for me to take the leap and have some faith!

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#329006 - 11/11/09 12:17 PM Re: LADY COMP ALL NATURAL BIRTH CONTROL PART 5 [Re: Amanda34]
KawaiiNot Offline
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Registered: 12/11/08
Posts: 185
Originally Posted By: Amanda34
ok, girls I hope I am not pregnant. I absolutely cannot get pregnant. Doctor said it would be too risky, I had a more serious complication at my last birth wich was in October 2008. I am a little nervous. My period is not coming. We did have sex in the LP, with no condoms. Lady comp has been giving me Pregnancy lights for a few weeks almost, but I did not ovulate back when Ladycomp said I did, I ovulated several days later. I sure hope my period comes by tommarow! We used a condom on all other times besides the LP, Although we may have been a tiny bit careless (got close but not inside before putting condom on, ect)


I don't understand. When did ladycomp give you your first green? When did you have unprotected sex? How can ladycomp have given you pregnancy lights for a few weeks already, that would make it think you ovulated around day 7 of this cycle? I just find that very unlikely. You did enter M for this cycle, right?
By the looks of your chart your period is not late at all yet?

I'm sorry to ask so many questions, but your post confuses me.
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